Interlude Yeah, we named the record No Shame, but we don't mean all shame What do you mean? Uh, there's a difference between healthy shame and toxic shame Healthy shame, it leads you to good things Like when you realize you're not God and you need other people It leads you to repentance, to ask for help, uh That's- that's different than toxic shame Mhm See, toxic shame is the voice that cries out over your life Unredeemable
